Episode 22 - John Copeland
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Talking Tom Brady's parent applications, TikTok providing Royalties to content creators on their app, Paul McCartney, Kim K's advice, and music with our guest John Copeland!
Hosts:
Matt Fischer @flooredmatt
Justin MacDonald @justintyme44
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This episodes official "Person on the Couch": John Copeland
Transcript of Episode 22
SUMMARY KEYWORDS
dolphin, people, tik tok, thought, baboon, article, tick tock, penguins, died, worms, organs, musk, understand, bad, captivity, long, moon, weird, watch, pretty
SPEAKERS
John Copeland, Matt Fischer, Jesse James, Justin MacDonald
Justin MacDonald 00:01
Good morning and welcome to unwanted opinions. I'm your host, Justin MacDonald here with Matt Fisher. Closed. Fact Checker Jesse James, executive producer Dave Miller. And our guy on the couch this week. John Kilcullen. John, is it Jonathan? No, just John. All right. That's always weird to me. I have a friend named Bobby and I call him Robert one time and he's like, yes, my name. And I was like, Oh, you're one of those guys. He's like, no. My name is Bobby. It's not actually Robert. broadcasting live out of the workspace collective. here in beautiful downtown Ocala. weather's great.
Jesse James 00:40
Matt hates when you bring us It's so boring cuz he has half the stuff I'm gonna make sure to mention myself.
Matt Fischer 00:50
Yes, 100% I almost forgot one person one time. We're here live all hopped up on key Glock Celsius this morning.
Justin MacDonald 00:57
Whoa, you do tend to like key Glock. Yeah. Well,
Matt Fischer 01:01
that's how you get your Friday started. That's the caffeine.
Justin MacDonald 01:03
I got my Friday started with Michael Jackson. Who's bad. Michael Jackson. With Will You Be There? The theme from Free Willy. Which is why I was doing Free Willy fish. mouth movement. Man,
Matt Fischer 01:25
Dave had that camera like already, like zoomed in on your face for that moment he sent you? Oh,
Justin MacDonald 01:29
yeah. Anyway, here we are. And John, thanks for joining us.
Matt Fischer 01:33
Do they still got orca whales in captivity?
Justin MacDonald 01:36
I think so. Yes. I think they're not breeding anymore. And they're not beginning anymore
Matt Fischer 01:42
because they're in captivity. No, because it killed people. Well,
Justin MacDonald 01:46
they're killer whales. Blackfish came out the documentary. And they're like, Guys, we're really sorry. We're gonna change stuff. They are now half off. Yeah. Like, all right. Yeah. Okay, you're forgiving. Cool. I go ride a roller coaster next a an orca like yeah, all right. Yeah,
Matt Fischer 02:05
yeah, they're foods are supposed to flop over and they're supposed to die. 60 years early.
Justin MacDonald 02:09
Yeah. Yeah, whatever. We're often rolling. Yeah. Anyway. Look,
Matt Fischer 02:18
I mean, that's what happens when you put like a this animal that smart in captivity like that. Make it do tricks for you. Like what do you expect you ever played with a penguin though? Penguins are dumb. Okay, I mean, they're like, not smart. Like it like a whale though. That's what I'm saying. I mean, like, penguins are cool. As far as like dumb intelligence wise, because birds you ever heard the term bird brain? You've probably been called that before? Um, yes, I've heard the term maybe you had when you don't understand what it means. That's fine.
Justin MacDonald 02:42
I don't know that. I've been called that before. But I've I've definitely heard it. I'm sure someone's called me. So well. They were probably 97 Because I haven't. It's not like an insult here. You're right. You're right. Anyway, asking for your address and whatnot. Like, I hate you know, I I, I understand the distaste for zoos and animals in captivity. But I also like getting to see penguins. And back when marine land was open. What a great way was marine land over near like Flagler Palm
Matt Fischer 03:14
Coast is in between St. Augustine every turn of that? Yeah, it was big
Justin MacDonald 03:17
back in like the late 50s or 60s. Like I think it was like pretty SeaWorld and that's where they like trained dolphins. And anyway, you'd go there and you could they would pull penguins out you could just play with penguins.
Matt Fischer 03:29
They tried to train a dolphin to speak English. Did you know that?
Justin MacDonald 03:31
Can you acknowledge the fact that I just said I got to play with a penguin?
Matt Fischer 03:34
Yeah, I'm first of all jealous that you got to play with Penguin because I've never had to learn to speak English well that's kind of a longer story I'm talking about sequence to NO NO NO NO NO NO
Justin MacDonald 03:45
he's gonna he's gonna go to this story that he always goes to where they lived in the house.
Matt Fischer 03:50
Dude they flooded house and they tried to teach dolphins English and what else happened?
Justin MacDonald 03:55
Why did they shut it down man dude what why?
Matt Fischer 03:59
This is real they flooded the house and they tried to teach dolphins English well they shut it down because this one lady was masturbating a dolphin the dolphin would pay attention in the lessons in shine Martin they like found out and they like shut it all down and I think the dolphin like killed himself covered well.
Justin MacDonald 04:24
How does the dolphin what how did he kill himself this why why why? Why do you like this to take over he gets it together as a comment All right, it's because they covered anyway
Matt Fischer 05:02
Make sure Oh man, I'm laughing too hard. I told you not to make it weird. I told you not to make it weird.
Justin MacDonald 05:12
So speaking of dolphins, and the NFL, Tom Brady.
Matt Fischer 05:19
That's not on the board yet. Well,
Justin MacDonald 05:21
it says TV 12 So you wouldn't understand. Oh,
Matt Fischer 05:23
I thought that was like software licensing. Another one of his
Justin MacDonald 05:28
another calculator that we got to pay for go on a rant about that. No, Tom Brady's filed for 26 patents ranging from like jewelry to protein bars. So be on the lookout for some TV. I wasn't aware he was an inventor. So yeah, here's the thing is that you just slap your name on a product, and then you make a lot of money off of it. That's like George Clooney with that.
Matt Fischer 05:52
Whatever alcohol he doesn't say like musk did that with Tesla. Um,
Justin MacDonald 05:57
there's an argument that he bought a company that was already going Gotcha. What is your like? Why do you dislike musk so much? Yeah,
Matt Fischer 06:05
I mean, everyone just like,
Justin MacDonald 06:07
yeah, it's never a strong argument either. Yeah,
Matt Fischer 06:10
well, is it ever?
Justin MacDonald 06:12
No, it doesn't need to be your dolphin.
Matt Fischer 06:16
Well, that's true. Just reporting history here.
Justin MacDonald 06:19
But yeah, you just slap your name on it. What's the AMIGO cost amigo? That was George Clooney.
Matt Fischer 06:26
And Cindy Crawford has been Yeah.
Justin MacDonald 06:28
Mr. Crawford? Yeah. But then what's the what's his name? Conor McGregor. He had that 12
Matt Fischer 06:36
Yeah, proper. 12 from whiskey drinkers. I've heard that whiskey is
Justin MacDonald 06:39
trash. Yeah. Well, you fought an old man. The old man. Forget about that. Yeah. Yeah. I've
Matt Fischer 06:47
heard from a couple of people. They're like It's garbage.
Justin MacDonald 06:49
You just throw your name on something. So I'm sure that's what he's doing. I don't think he's inventing a protein bar. I don't think it needs to be invented. It's already do we need more
Matt Fischer 06:56
protein bars though? Clif Bars exist, period.
Justin MacDonald 07:00
We're just basically like candy bars with protein in them like yeah,
Matt Fischer 07:05
those are the good ones. No, they're the chocolate drizzles. It's how I can eat a candy bar without feeling guilty. You should still feel guilty there's no I don't because it's like it's packaged like and that's the problem with food though. It's packaged like it's healthy. Right? They use like these buzzwords like fat free and it's just like fat free don't mean diddly squat like fat free means a no fat but it is chock full of sugar a lot of say diddly squat on I don't know. Excuse my profanity. Yeah, bird brain didn't How old are you? I'm using radio approved. I can't say real curse words. Because then it's like floodgates are open and non stop.
Justin MacDonald 07:40
Okay, that's fair. Yeah. house with a dolphin. Anyway. By the way in common? Oh, gosh. There's a video.
Matt Fischer 07:50
Wow. Thank you.
Justin MacDonald 07:52
Thank you for of course, it's ancient.
Matt Fischer 07:54
Yeah, that's that should be mandatory reading for everyone listening to the show
Justin MacDonald 07:58
that I can bring up almost any weird subject are known Andrew, and he's got like, some form of information on it. So yeah. Yeah. I'd like to know how long you've known about the dolphin elisandra. You're gonna have to talk to him about the humanzee and see if he's right now? Not.
Matt Fischer 08:15
Right now. That's kind of like not I mean, doesn't fully touch but kind of touches on one of the subjects on the board. Which one? Oh, the Zeno transplantation. And that's it. It's not the thing, not the thing from Alien, because that's, as you know, more, but we're getting there. Potentially. Now the guy with the pig heart just passed away rest in peace. He had a pig heart inside of him for like two months. It was like his only option. And like the guy and his son were like, apparently like, look, we don't have any options like he he's not eligible for like any other transplant. Basically, he was going to die regardless, and they were like, Hey,
Justin MacDonald 08:52
you're not eligible for any other transplant.
Matt Fischer 08:54
I guess it was so bad. Um, you know, and he was bedridden, and like, all this other stuff, but they were like, hey, it's gonna advance science type thing. Like, you know, it's worth a shot. Like they fully knew the risks and we're like, let's go ahead let's try and do this, which I thought was actually kind of cool. You know, like, from someone to be like, admirable, whatever, you know, like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna pass away at the end of this regardless, might as well give it a shot. So they put a pig heart in him. And he lasted two months, and it kind of went downhill and he passed away recently. But when I was reading that article, I found out apparently, this is crazy. In 1984, they put a baboon heart and a newborn and it lived for 41 months. An ad for
Justin MacDonald 09:35
like a baboon heart would be really big for newborn. Yeah,
Matt Fischer 09:38
what it was a newborn baboon.
Justin MacDonald 09:39
I'm just, I could their babies too, but my initial thought was like a big old scary baboon.
Matt Fischer 09:46
You're thinking of a mandrill. First of all, not a baboon, common misconception with people when they're talking about like the larger monkey species,
Justin MacDonald 09:54
what's got the buck thing? Well, they both kind of have that That's how they get rid of. I should guess that the guy that's all about the humanzee would know about monkey butts. Okay,
Matt Fischer 10:06
first of all, humanzee is a ape in a monkey is a monkey. I thought so there's kind of two different things right there.
Justin MacDonald 10:12
Okay. I'm just saying, you know about monkey butts.
Matt Fischer 10:17
Yeah. All right, who doesn't?
Justin MacDonald 10:19
Anyway? Okay. Maybe I'm thinking of a mandrel. Maybe I'm not very aggressive assumption. Well, do you know the difference? Well, keep going.
Matt Fischer 10:30
Yeah. Counsel. All right. I know. I have a mantra. Yeah. He just confirmed it. He knows as well. Okay, that man has facts.
Justin MacDonald 10:39
Right. So can you continue? How? Like, what was the the end game? Why don't they do more baboon hearts?
Matt Fischer 10:46
Well, because the person died. It didn't work. It worked for 41 months longer than the pig heart. Yeah. Well, do you know how long a month is? Huh? Do you know how long a month is? Depends on now. Multiply that by two is that more than 41? Could be? I mean, it ain't right now. The pig heart last longer.
Justin MacDonald 11:05
You said it less than 41 months? 41 days? Well, then you're a moron.
Matt Fischer 11:10
Did I say month? Yeah, that's 41 days. 41 days, the newborn only live for 41 to multiply by two. And then it's longer. Ah, yeah, I just didn't know. We had that technology back in 84. It's okay. You're thinking a mantra. I swear to God, I swear to God,
Justin MacDonald 11:29
I know what I'm thinking. You're thinking the moon days? They last longer?
Matt Fischer 11:34
They do. I don't know either. I don't know. Yeah, I just it was crazy to me that we did that back in 84. And then we did it now. And I'm just wondering why we don't put more and more hearts in people or organs for that matter. Sounds like they don't work. Well. That is true. That is part of it. But you know, there's, you know, a lot of people are kind of passed away from like, needing organs like, I mean, more people should be like that gentleman and stand up and be like, hey, I'll be your guinea pig.
Justin MacDonald 11:57
Yeah, I mean, I would have to imagine that's like a pretty particular, like, health situation you're in though. Like, like, how do you set like, sign up for that?
Matt Fischer 12:08
Well, first of all, you gotta be dying, right? Second of all, you're gonna need an organ. Go okay. And then after that, it's just like, you know, some paperwork here. Finding the zoo, that's just south of St. Augustine that's going out of business. They're liquidating all their animals. They you know, boom, now you have access to a bunch of organs, you know, the animals. So basically, you can do what you want with them. Case in point the dolphin, you know, and then you take its organs.
Justin MacDonald 12:35
It's simple. It's as simple as that. Yeah. I no doubt I'm so sorry.
Matt Fischer 12:39
No, that's fine. It's just technology is getting crazy. We're gonna get to a point to where we can start like saving people by like making well we're supposed to be growing organs by now. We are like we grew up on like, we grew that well. And here's not an organ but like they grew like yours and like noses on like, the back of like rats. Yeah. And it looks super crazy. So like, they have that technology. But I don't know if it's like lack of funding or like lack of volunteers. But I feel like we've just kind of stagnated
Justin MacDonald 13:03
Well, it's also like, that's just a weird area to go down. Growing ears and noses, all of it.
Matt Fischer 13:08
It's the logical route to go down. I know, there's gonna be a lot of people to have like, opposition to it, for whatever reason, but also like as science exists, like, I mean, like, back in the day, they'd be like, Well, Justin, you're sick. We're gonna put a bunch of leeches on your leg and they're gonna suck your blood out and you're gonna be healed. Yeah. Leetonia Yeah, So dude, parasites are like the number one fear creeped me out man. just gross.
Justin MacDonald 13:32
That's number one fear that's
Matt Fischer 13:35
exactly what it is like it's it really? Like yeah, like worms inside you and parasites sucking your blood and stuff. Like God so gross.
Justin MacDonald 13:42
Worms worms. Like they freaked me out. My dad
Matt Fischer 13:46
used to get Yeah, I don't I'm not a big fan.
Justin MacDonald 13:47
He'd be like just hooked the worm in my mind if they can eat you while you're dead. They can eat while you're alive too.
Matt Fischer 13:53
How do you know what you put in a hook through its head hurts but you know what I'm saying? Like you don't know if the same
Justin MacDonald 13:58
both ways. You know sand flea. I'll hook those all day but when the police are so small though, a sand flea? Not a flea flea?
Matt Fischer 14:07
Yes a bigger scene him trying to hook a flea did watch it. Stable fingers.
Justin MacDonald 14:14
That's all I think there's like, like
Matt Fischer 14:17
no, I just it's like the logical progression and, and like, I don't see why we don't go down that route. And quite frankly, I'm like, I would have thought we'd be a little bit farther along than now. Because if you look at like medical history, yeah, there's times where it was just it was backwards. And you know, they're they're putting leeches on people and just you know, Yardies the leeches Yeah, but they're like, Oh, here's some cocaine you know, for your whatever. Like the medicine that they used was like often like we've advanced that far. It's time for us to advance to the next level. Or Coca Cola. Yeah, exactly. Your fatigue. Yeah, so now it's time that we actually started growing these organs.
Justin MacDonald 14:50
I mean, there's still using methamphetamines is medicine so have we really gotten that far? Yeah, you on Musk nearly Yeah, neuro link is is kind of cool. Easy, but that can't that can't help. Someone that has a bad liver though. Matt hates Elon. So it's like it's this weird like left movement to like all of a sudden just dislike. And it's it's I just don't understand it. Like,
Matt Fischer 15:15
I don't dislike him, but I don't like him either. I mean, he's just like, I just, I don't know. I just don't like any of the billionaires. What if you met him and he was just a super cool guy. He probably be a douche. I don't I don't see him being super cool. I
Justin MacDonald 15:29
do Says the guy talking trash about somebody.
Matt Fischer 15:31
Yeah, well, I can do that. Yeah, that's fair.
Justin MacDonald 15:34
I don't think it'd be super cool. I think he's definitely I think he's weird. Yeah, a little weird for sure. But he takes away a lot of like arguments like, Hey, I am gonna donate $6 billion to world hunger like Okay, so now
Matt Fischer 15:51
let's have a verified where that went, though.
Justin MacDonald 15:54
I don't think I think it's gonna go to a charity that he controls, right. Yeah. Which is like, why shouldn't be there's so many places that are nefarious to say the least. That's why I like all charities are nefarious. No, all charities are not nefarious is hail. America's one that's like one person, you know, only 1% goes overhead. The rest goes actually like feeding people. But like, those things are important. Or like, Hey, I'm going to get the Starlink up over Ukraine so people can stay connected. Now I like and I know, he may go to space anyway. They said from their iPhone, like Yeah, but that's what people say. Like, I don't understand why we need to go to space like it just it's it's weird. Are you gonna just say I would like to how are
Matt Fischer 16:40
we gonna have Star Wars if we don't go to space? You think all the nerds would immediately on board now right?
Justin MacDonald 16:45
Thank you. You're speaking to that. Chinese satellite crashed on the moon yet?
Matt Fischer 16:51
What? Oh, to find the obelisk on the moon. Right. Now is that Indian space program, wasn't it?
Justin MacDonald 17:00
I didn't know Indiana space program.
Matt Fischer 17:02
I don't know if they do either. But if someone someone was sending a satellite to check out this obelisk on like, The Dark Side of the Moon.
Justin MacDonald 17:07
No, they weren't specifically doing that. It just happened to see it. Well, that's way over there. But no, this is that's a that's a rover. Not a satellite that was on the moon. It did crash into the moon. Gotcha.
Matt Fischer 17:19
I wouldn't you just have it land on the moon. We did that in the 60s. Come on China do better. It's a
Justin MacDonald 17:24
it's it's not a space shuttle that accidentally crashed. It's a satellite that just is on the course to being done. So the
Matt Fischer 17:31
Kamikaze the moon?
Justin MacDonald 17:33
That's the wrong nationality? No, that's my house tonight. So just stay up there forever.
Matt Fischer 17:42
Yeah. And have you seen how many are around us right now? One of those coming down? Hmm. All the time. Okay. When it comes to my roof, who's does my insurance cover that? Yeah, you have to lose insurance people out there listening? What if something goes through my roof from outer space? Like that's gonna be a more common issue in the future. Like, is that covered? Because I guarantee it's probably not covered. There's probably some clause where it just like, Yeah, we don't cover space debris.
Justin MacDonald 18:07
Clause. For years of my life. I thought Santa Claus was spelt with an E because of the movie The Santa Claus because there's it's about a clause in the contract. That was like three years ago that I realized there's no young Santa Claus. So I'm glad I'm glad we know that. Yeah. Now, you know,
Matt Fischer 18:24
that was a very polite view. Jesse. Yeah.
Justin MacDonald 18:29
spill a little bit.
Matt Fischer 18:30
I there. It's all in your beard to now. Wipe that up. There you go. Wow. Anyway, I digress. Yeah. It's okay. Wow. The crowds loving it. He's not an Asian specialist, Mike Miller, Nick's look like divided this morning. He said someone give that man some bread is soak up all the milk, already had enough milk this morning. So meal it was oat milk, though, which apparently, according to Justin is just sugar and water, sugar, sugar and carbs. Oh, he seems like he tried in a group chat. It's just Oh, you just were like, oh, oat milks bad. It's just sugar and carbs. Like if that didn't make it more desirable.
Justin MacDonald 19:14
I didn't say carbs. You didn't. I didn't read the article. I just
Matt Fischer 19:19
if I can't get all the information from the headline, then you're doing wrong. It's really funny to me when like, that's why you have a sub headline, see
Justin MacDonald 19:26
someone post something? And I was like, Okay, what's an interesting take? And I'll read the article, and then I'll ask them about it. And they don't. They're like, Oh, I didn't I didn't read the article.
Matt Fischer 19:35
I just I just shared it blindly on social media, because I'd seem to justify the point I was trying to make.
Justin MacDonald 19:40
Yes. And we all know this. The headline typically is written in a way to just get you to click on it anyway. And then you read the article, and you get through and it's like, well, it didn't actually happen that way. But it could, you know, say yeah, like this could happen. It's like, you read the article, you're gonna post it I don't even know
Matt Fischer 19:57
if it if we brought it up. But when the Olympics were going on They were it was like the worst example because like I read this article twice just because I was like, Am I missing something? It was about the gymnastics and like you know Russia had all these problems you know with you know the doping whatnot but like the one chick that was supposed to win didn't win cuz she messed up but the article was like, there was a funeral at the gym. You know the singles gymnastics today and I'm like, oh crap people are dying in this
Justin MacDonald 20:22
you know gymnastics this summer. Give me like I figure skating figure
Matt Fischer 20:25
skating. That's what it was. Yeah, sorry. Whatever. I have the same thing. Fixed getting stuck on ice ice tonight. I don't. They're like the winter Winter Olympics equivalent, though. Is it fun to make fun of people?
Justin MacDonald 20:41
Please keep going.
Matt Fischer 20:42
But it was like talking about a funeral like people actually died it like it was a very poorly written but click Beatty article and I'm reading it. I'm like, Oh, crap. Someone like broke their neck. Like I'm thinking like, there was actual, like deaths involved. But it was like, it was literally eruptive. Just because the one chick was supposed to win didn't win. And then like all the other stuff that was embroiled with like the controversy and like, basically, they're like, Oh, these Russian figure skaters are upset. Look how sad they are. Yeah. And it was like, no one's having fun. That was like the the gist of the article was like, no one's having fun. It looks like a funeral. And it was just this long stretch from like you I clicked on the stick and there was like a travesty. You know, like, right. Yep. But it turns out Nope. They're just like, they're just sad. They're just sad. And you love that thing. No, yeah. I gotta make sure my head is in frame that for you. Yeah, you're gonna have to the whole show. What am I supposed to look at Dave? For me? I didn't even see that camera that radio show not a camera show. Guys. I'm sitting there watching them. Just look at the look at the screen. Look back. I'm looking at you guys.
Justin MacDonald 21:45
Thank you. We appreciate that. It's It's kind of crazy.
Matt Fischer 21:49
shaming me right now misleading the articles
Justin MacDonald 21:51
can be. Well, just take it. Right. Just understand. We're saying that that alone. So no one died at the figure skating thing? No, unfortunately. Yeah.
Matt Fischer 22:02
I wasn't gonna say that.
Justin MacDonald 22:06
He read it twice, just to make certain. Yeah, it is wild to me, though, that it's very frustrating when people post things. And I'm like, I genuinely want to have a conversation. Like, let's talk about it. And we can't.
Matt Fischer 22:18
Well, that's because they didn't read the article.
Justin MacDonald 22:21
Like, well, well, I like the headline. Well, I
Matt Fischer 22:23
will let you know on the topics on that board. I actually skimmed the articles. So I'm quite knowledgeable on them, because I did more than just read the headlines. Good. Yeah.
Justin MacDonald 22:31
So tick tock is going to launch sound on which is a artists royalty program, which is pretty cool. Because there's so many songs that have gone viral. Yeah. Usually the remixes, but even still, that have gone viral on Tik Tok. And like, that's one of the things that's like, it's frustrating from like, a creative standpoint of like, you put work into something, it goes viral, and how do you actually like benefit from that? And there's all these like meme pages that just recycle the stuff. And they benefit off of it because they get sponsorships and all of that. But like how does the original creator get, you know, some form of like reward for that because like, Hey, you, you should have like an incentive to be creative. And so they're doing this and the first year that they're doing it, it's 100% royalties go to the artist, and then after a year, it's going to be 9010. But like a lot of the like, there's songs on the radio now, that started on Tik Tok, which is pretty stinking cool. So I think that's a really neat way to go. And it's another great way to incentivize people to be on Tik Tok instead of, you know, reels for Instagram or
Matt Fischer 23:42
reels for Instagram. Or they started that a couple weeks ago.
Justin MacDonald 23:46
Okay, see, I'm no I wasn't aware
Matt Fischer 23:48
of this tick tock have advertisements like Instagram. I'm just wondering how they're gonna make like how they get the money, like how they generate income there to like, pay the artists the royalties? Yes, they're sponsored ads. They're sponsored. So it's just like when you're scrolling Instagram, and you see a sponsored ad type thing. It's, you're not on tick tock. I have the app button. No, not.
Justin MacDonald 24:05
Yes. Same with me. I'm not on it. I do have the app. And I will say this yesterday, I was just laying in bed and I was like, Oh, let me watch a reel. And I started doing the thing. And I was like, Oh, this is why tick tock because all it is for me. It's like nature landscapes. motorcycling magic tricks.
Matt Fischer 24:30
You are a man child. Wow, look, I'm ready.
Justin MacDonald 24:35
Cuz I watched the magic tricks because I watched him a few times because I'm like, I want to see how he didn't know how they're doing the trick.
Matt Fischer 24:41
I tell myself you watch their hands. You'll know the trick. And then I watched their hands and I'm like, What did I just get more frustrated? Because like each time you watch it is even more crazy.
Justin MacDonald 24:49
Yeah, it's a little embarrassing. Yes. So the thought of that before I started talking, but so then I realized like, Oh, this is how you get sucked into Tik Tok is like it caters specifically to you and what you like Like I Yeah, then I started thinking I'm like, wait a minute, I'm gonna be a magician. There's these like, I always think if you didn't see my drunken story from my wife and I and so
Matt Fischer 25:12
I watched it but without sound on because I was lying in bed, and then I couldn't watch it again. Because it like disappears. Like I've no idea what that was
Justin MacDonald 25:19
about like this. What do you say? A Sega magic ship? Oh, are you drunk? Oh, not gonna microphone. Yeah, so then I started thinking about like, like, how do I say this without sounding too bad?
Matt Fischer 25:35
There are people sound bad dude.
Justin MacDonald 25:37
There's like youth pastors out there that are like there's nothing but young girls dancing on Tik Tok. And I'm like, wait a minute. I don't ever see any magic tricks. What are you watching? Dude? I think he got some explaining to do.
Matt Fischer 25:53
Well, they are pastoring the youth so I mean, there you go.
Justin MacDonald 25:57
I mean, that could be part of it. But don't get the benefit of the doubt. But yeah, when you realize that it's like very catered to what I guess so does it
Matt Fischer 26:05
like like, so is it? Like, what is it curating these like Tic TOCs for you to view based on what your liking or is it like it's by your liking and what your watch because I've always wondered that. Like, does it know that I just like watched like a half a second of this. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's what I thought like, they're like, oh, he watched this to the end. He must like this. Okay, watch this magic trick six times more. Like, they probably have like a term for that. They're like, not only did he watch the whole tick tock, but he's crazy. They're like, he refreshed it four times.
Justin MacDonald 26:38
I guarantee if I pulled it up right now, it would be one of those three things. But that's why even on my search page for Instagram, I look at thumbnails but I'll click on pictures if it's something that I don't want to see. Back in my feeding Fair enough.
Matt Fischer 26:53
Miles is all baboons mandrels
Justin MacDonald 26:57
you don't even know the difference between the two. So one's got a bull. Anyway, I think it's cool that they're gonna do that, that they're gonna actually I didn't I had no idea that they were incentivizing creators unreal. I definitely want to start posting more. We have Tik Tok. Well, I resisted Tik Tok so long because mainly because it was a Chinese company because the Chinese still own it. There's a I guess there's a some type of partnership and I don't think they pull as much information as they used to. But
Matt Fischer 27:32
like what are we gonna do with tick tock when China Yeah, Chinese? Yeah, when they invade like Taiwan. What are we gonna do with tick tock? We're gonna have to like,
Justin MacDonald 27:40
with all these Russian people, we're gonna do we deal with the Uighur Muslims and just ignore it because we'd like their money
Matt Fischer 27:46
and their production. Wow. Shots fired at Disney.
Justin MacDonald 27:50
I mean, yeah, it's, I went on my conspiracy rant yesterday. I'll keep it
Matt Fischer 27:54
Oh, you don't want you didn't save it for the show. Now?
Justin MacDonald 27:57
I'm not I can't. I can't It's too bad.
Matt Fischer 27:59
Not sure involved Russia and Ukraine.
Justin MacDonald 28:02
Businesses? Yeah. Yeah. It's a simple one. I just think it's so no, you know.
Matt Fischer 28:12
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them go down the conspiracy path. Yeah,
Justin MacDonald 28:16
it's there. I'm just keeping it shut up. That's fine. Some stacks releasing they are they released a new app. I don't know if you guys are into independent journalists. But if you are, that's a really great program.
Matt Fischer 28:29
I prefer my journalism from only two companies. Time Warner gorse and who's the one that owns the fox?
Justin MacDonald 28:39
I don't know. Yeah,
Matt Fischer 28:40
those two those two. The two the two biggies the two that own everything. Yeah, independent journalist was awesome.
Justin MacDonald 28:47
Yeah. I love it. Matt Taibbi is one of my favorites. And that's who I'm subscribed to on there. So anyway, new app, it works a lot better than the website, which to me is like, I love to see that because the website was kind of antiquated as far as what we're used to. With there's such a huge mix in the world of like, you know, everyone expects things to work like Amazon or Google like so. So well. And it's like, they literally have billions and billions of dollars and teams working on it. So we need like around the clock as well. So when you have someone like substack which started as again, like a pretty well working but somewhat antiquated as far as expectations go website, and then they just continually get more people and then they build and then they now have a new app. It's like oh, new people can enter the market. You just have to have something that people want and what you know what I want was independent, you know journalist, so having that and seeing that like progression. It's pretty pretty dang cool. So
Matt Fischer 29:45
at what point did they become not independent journalism though, because I feel like that's happened before where like a journalistic outfit comes out and they are independent and they are like unbiased and then you know, like, like in if that's your end goal, then that's fine. You know is Yeah, Erica We all want to make money. But like, at some point, like they get an offer, they can't refuse, they get bought out. And now they have a parent company that has like a controlling stake and all these other news,
Justin MacDonald 30:08
they can't refuse can sometimes just be leaning into their fan base. Yeah, you know, that's like the Young Turks to me, like, yeah, they were pretty, you know, unbiased. And then it's like, Alright, you're taking a clear bias right now, which is fine. But like, now I'm categorizing you is the same way categorize everyone else. I don't know where that line is for I always thought that was an interesting choice of names to Young Turks. Yeah, I like crystal and Sagar they were, they've started their own program, and crystals, left leaning and Sagres, right leaning, and they kind of like, go back and forth. So it's kind of neat. But eventually, they're gonna get big enough that they're gonna go well, there's topics we don't want to cover, because it's gonna affect our bottom line. And I think that always happens. And then you just have to look for the new one. Like, you just keep recycling until you
Matt Fischer 30:55
they need more of that like, like left leaning, right, leaning to where they are, like, friends, coworkers, business partners, but also like on an equal stage, right? Because what sucks is like when you watch like a more like left leaning liberal news source, and they obviously get like the stereotypical conservative on there, and then the conservative group that gets like, the most bonkers out there granola, eating liberal on there, just to like, paint this picture. And it's just like, Come on, guys. Like, it's not really likely that like, we're gonna go to the extreme here, just because it's gonna, you know, make entertaining TV like I do, like their platform of where, you know, they're both educated. They're both like on an equal footing. And they're both like arguing from, you know, their own standpoints. And and it's more informative, because I think if anything, it shows like, Oh, hey, there is actually a lot of people that are kind of in, like, in the true middle that go I agree with it at this time. And I agree with it at that time. And I think we can live in a world and hopefully, you know, redo our political system where it's not so you know, about party line, right, you know, because I think that's a big problem right now. It's like the system's broken. It's like this, this hard line in the sand between parties is not letting anything happen whatsoever. Yeah.
Justin MacDonald 32:04
Yeah. And you're you're excommunicated for me all grew up if you don't agree with every little thing. Oh, yeah. Say, you know,
Matt Fischer 32:10
if you don't go extreme enough, or you don't go like you know, and busker. separative if you're like,
Justin MacDonald 32:14
I just don't think people should be bankrupt for like, health care. Yeah. It's like, oh, okay, liberal, you know, like, all right, it goes both ways. It's like, it's very frustrating. That's why I like those to being on there and being on equal footing, because you're right, not only will they pick someone that's an extremist from the other side, but then they limit their speaking time to Yeah, so that's like, so you actually think and they'll give them a crazy, you know, subject, and then they'll shut them down and like, Haha, I got them. You know, it's not gotcha media, or it's like, wait, no, I want to know what's actually going on in the world. And I do think there are more people that I, you know, I don't know, middle of the road is the right word, but like, it's okay to have differing opinions on different subjects. You don't have to choose a side and just stick with that. Like, no,
Matt Fischer 32:57
it's okay to not have an opinion on a subject either.
Justin MacDonald 32:59
Yeah, that's very okay. Not to have an opinion. I was in a diner yesterday. And I swear to you, I almost like videoed the whole place because I'm sitting at the bar. And it's like, gas over here. Gas gasket. Like everyone's talking about gas. And they all have like, their own opinions on it. You know, one, we're all we're
Matt Fischer 33:23
all like petroleum export. Rhino. Professionals,
Justin MacDonald 33:27
right? Energy professionals, whatever you want to name it. I'm just like, oh my gosh, like I I literally got my headphones out. I have a pocket. I'm like, glad to have these. I'm putting my headphones in. I don't want to hear everyone's stupid opinions, unwanted opinions on on gas, like you have no idea what you're talking about? Or maybe you do, maybe you don't, but I'm tired of hearing of it. Anyway, look,
Matt Fischer 33:48
I woke up and booted up Facebook while I was taking a poop this morning. And I read for memes. So I think I'm educated on this subject. So I'm going to talk about it at this diner. And that's what they're saying, or that's what they're doing, in my opinion. Because last week, it was, you know, their geopolitical experts and the war in eastern Ukraine. And two weeks before that they were, you know, infectious disease experts. So
Justin MacDonald 34:10
yeah, it's frustrating. I don't mind having a conversation with someone, but like, Please do your research about it. You know, let's actually have a conversation not just like, we're saving lives or do your research
Matt Fischer 34:22
thing that was like, I think we need to like, like, maybe use a different word. Well, like try and try and do your best to educate yourself because like, are they really researching it? Or are they just reading like that, you know, like, articles that are right, you know, basically confirmation bias that
Justin MacDonald 34:37
goes back to the news though, when you have like a situation where I was talking to Cory diamond yesterday, we're talking about how you gather your sources, right? And it's like, I get a lot of my news from his memes of course, and it's like he said something that he heard from someone else and it's nothing is noble anymore. And it's so true like to actually get down to what's actually going on can sometimes be very hard. But I guess my whole thing is like don't share the meme or read the headline. And then think that, you know, I have a friend that's going through this. They're dating someone, the person, they have differing opinion, the person they're dating they have differing opinions with. And so I was like, well, who's right? Like who's got the better argument? And they're like, well, the other person because they actually do research, but I'm just I really love people. And I'm passionate, like, no. You can't just say that and excuse yourself from doing any research. Like, you know, that other person's you you're admitting their right, but you just don't like what they're saying. Like,
Matt Fischer 35:37
that's the thing that was like, there's people out there that, you know, do their research by watching like YouTube videos, though. That's
Justin MacDonald 35:46
not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that there is plenty of there's independent news journalists, there's, there's cross checking, like, that's like, I've said it plenty of times, I pull up my seven new sites, I see what what headline, you know, is similar across all of them. And then I read through, like, Alright, what's actually going on here? And then I go to a few of my independent journalists that I like, what's their take on this? That's so much work, then don't talk on a subject. Like, don't have an opinion about it. And that's, that goes back to like, you don't have to have an opinion about it. And you can feel like you can feel for the subject. And you can, you know, oh man, I feel so bad for those people or this situation. But you don't have to have an opinion. Just like, if people want to complain about gas prices, or you know, you know, people not wearing masks or whatever, like whatever their like, their frustration is like, let them have that frustration. It's okay. Especially if you don't know enough about it. If they're just like, hey, my, my budget is tripled now. Like, all right, let them deal with it. Like, let him be sad about it. I'm ranting too much. We're gonna move on what time we got Dave.
Matt Fischer 36:48
It's a 38. After two more minutes, two minutes. Really, people just need to take him Kardashians advice. So yes. Did you read that? No. She said, do you know about a Jessie I know. So she's getting a lot of backlash, apparently, because and I don't know if she said this on International Women's Day. But it was kind of like targeted towards like, because the way she's treating Kanye No, but she just says Get your effing ass up and work. It seems like nobody wants to work these days. If you put in the work, you will receive results. It's that simple. And people are losing their mind. Because a that's coming from, you know, a billionaire reality TV star who, you know, like during the pandemic, she was able to quarantine all of her closest friends and family and then ship them off to an island to have a party while everyone else is like out of work, you know, trying to figure out where their next meal was gonna come from. You could have done that too, if you worked hard as well. And I think cooling thing though, is people are saying we're working harder than ever we're just don't want to be exploited. Some people are working two jobs and then delivering food or picking up groceries on the side. And you know, inflation's at seven a half percent and the rate like you know, and housing markets out of control, but the wages aren't going up and so people are really upset with them because they're like, how out of touch can you be? It made me think of like the CNN article? That was just like, we don't understand what's so hard. Here's a budget that we worked up for someone that makes minimum wage, and like I don't know where they got their like, but they're like internet $15 A month food $150 a month and they're like, dude, yeah, I'll show you the paragraph it was so like 600 gallons of wood that was the most egregious one is they had rent for like $600 and it's just like there's no place that can and
Justin MacDonald 38:33
then look at avocado toast.
Matt Fischer 38:35
So I think that was a that was a kickback is people are like, You are so out of touch. People are working hard they want to just not be exploited, you know, they want to get fair wages. They want to like like I just don't know how you can say that. You know, because she's out of town. Exactly. But But it's funny you know because I think I don't know if she's got like a new show coming out or her old show is coming back but like she's trying to like promote that and she says this and now like it's not gonna matter she's gonna get worse not and here's the thing those people are outraged as soon as that show comes on, and they get off work from their second job, they're gonna go home they gonna put that show on they're gonna zone out, you know, they say Oh, well behaved women. I don't I don't they really
Justin MacDonald 39:16
make history. Matthew. John copani ready to come around to get in trouble. What? What, let me let John Copeland thinks I'm deaf. I don't think he speaks as if he's deaf. Yeah, well, hey, it's good to see you. Deaf. Show, buddy. You are grabbing me? Yeah,
Matt Fischer 39:46
I go out to meet him. And I'm standing in the doorway, like looking at my watch. And he and this is true, though. And he's right. He looks at me goes I was gonna text you. I was gonna be late. But he goes, But you already knew that and I'm not mad, because You're darn right. I knew that. Absolutely. Yeah, I'm good. I'm glad you got here like right at eight o'clock. Keep it on 759 You're right. Totally All right. Keep it.
Justin MacDonald 40:11
So, John, for people that don't know you, John, you play all over town all over the state. Really? Yeah. Play music. Play guitar. Do you play any other